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Tuesday 16 September |
09:00 | Intro - scene setting Meeting goals Priorities 2 mins from anyone on the floor | facilitator: T Beale | | TB opening remarks slides PDF. Original TB blog post on key criteria for investible standards. Priorities mentioned during introductions: - Entry level openEHR - getting started is too hard
- Deal with licensing FUD
- Support for localisation, affiliate groups
- restarting specifications release work
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10:30 | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- COFFEE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
10:45 | The Foundation | Ian McNicoll Tomaz Gornik | | Ian McNicoll presentation on new board structure. Questions raised: - articles of association / statutes / by-laws - where are they defined? Gunnar Klein
- registering trademark outside of Europe
- what is UCL's role? Why not independently registered as a company? Does UCL need to be involved?
- Licensing was recently discussed in a thread in an openEHR LinkedIN-group https://www.linkedin.com/groups/Membership-144276.S.5909661200660054019 and was briefly discussed here too.
- Silje: Reuse of wikipedia text snippets (CC-BY-SA) in commercial newspapers has worked, this might be similar to deriving things from CC-BY-SA licensed archetypes.
- Erik: We may need to be able to fork specifications; requires different license than CC-BY-ND (e.g. CC-BY instead).
Actions: - Gunnar K offered to help with draft & review of statutes etc
- Text of membership page needs to be changed to reflect 15€ membership idea. Ian M / Adriana
- General feeling is to change org diagram so that 'second board' is a management committee (not a board) including e.g. program leads
Gunnar Klein: some reflections on formalising and simplifying the description of the openEHR governance. |
11:15 | HANDI / NHS | all | | Ian McNicoll presentation on HANDI-HOPD Demo platform being managed by HANDI, not NHS but is being supported by NHS England. Proposal to use this as the basis for an open-source hospital e-prescribing project, making use of SMART, FHIR and openEHR. Already involving some European companies, including Marand. Others have offered support. Questions: - How do we make the openEHR engagement more active and visible?
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13:00 | Conformance, APIs openEHR inVivo | fac: Tomaz Borut, everyone | Decisions needed: - rough definition of conformance specifications to create
| Tomaz intro: - IHE approach - publicly announce compliance profiles; required to go to connectathon and demonstrate interop with 2 or more other products; monitors give certification.
detailed notes here. Actions: - a technical group will get together and generate a draft conformance approach based on the notes above:
- Borut Fabjan, Bostjan Lah (Marand), DIPS, Rong (Cambio), Code24, Thomas Beale (Ocean)
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13:30 | Vendor model of Cooperation & Collaboration & Competition | Tomaz Gornik, Ian McNicoll | | (this discussion was deferred) |
14:00 | Specifications governance & tooling | T Beale | Decisions needed: - conversion of specifications from FrameMaker to alternative format, e.g. AsciiDoc, DITA...
- agree lightweight change process
| TB explained current status quo of releases and tooling. Actions: - review specifications governance - TB, Erik Sundvall, Gunnar Klein
- agreed Asciidoc as candidate new doc toolchain - Bostjan, Fabio, TB to research and provide a proposal
- provide a tooling and specifications roadmap overview (S From, DIPS)
Questions: - how to move to tool-based UML, integrated with documentation?
- tool-based class definition tables? Obtainable from UML tool?
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14:45 | GDL & CDS update | Rong | Decisions needed: - GDL needs to become a proper specification
| Rong & Iago presentation on GDL and new features. |
15:00 | --------------------------------------------------------- coffee ----------------------------------------------------- |
15:15 | Incorporating new specifications - GDL & AQL | Rong, All | | TB: GDL can be first spec in Asciidoc tool chain approach |
16:30 | Archetype tooling and ADL 1.5 - Archetype editor, Template designer
- EhrExplorer
| T Beale Borut Fabjan Rong ... | Decisions needed: - what version to rename ADL 1.5 to, since it is now no longer directly compatible with ADL 1.4
- what approach to migrating from ADL 1.4 to ADL 1.x .... 2.*
| Actions: - agreed to rename current ADL 1.5 spec to 2.x
- agreed in principle on a community tooling project in Java / js / web UI
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Wednesday 17 September |
09:00 | Clinical modelling - development sprint
- editorial team
- model of sharing, versioning
| fac: Ian Heather Tomaz | Decisions needed: - agreement on mode of action on 'industry sprint'
| See this wiki page for main description. Candidate archetype list. CKM Project page Heather: - about 30 / 30 / 30% easy / medium / hard
- need to have industry partners involvement to the extent of reviewing to-be-published archetypes for their use (i.e. for implementation).
- publishing - important PR exercise
Agreements - It was agreed that some new editors will come on board for the sprint.
- It was stated that full terminology bindings would be developed in a following phase; however epSOS terminology coverage will be reviewed during the exercise.
- need to include some example data for each? archetype
Main terminology bindings would better be done by IHTSDO involvement with CIMI. Potential contacts - Daniel Karlsson, Linda Bird. Possible synchronisation with Norway archetype development; contact Silje |
09:30 | Clinical model sharing issues across CKMs openEHR CKM status | fac: Ian | | Erik/ Ian M: we can potentially use Git-style methods to mechanically implement the fork / pull request lifecycle. Heather: right now, Change Request mechanism being added to CKM in next release, but only works for archetypes already in existence. Question: how to submit a new archetype from a national program that doesn't exist in CKM yet. Martin vd Meer: need better documentation on how to do clinical modelling. Ian: could use Stackoverflow as a help site. |
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10:30 | National openEHR updates - Sweden
- Norway experience, methodology
- Japan
- Spain
- Australia
- Slovenia
- UK - NHS/FHIR
| Erik S Silje Shinji David Moner Hugh Leslie Ian | | Details on this page. |
11:00 | Infrastructure | DIPS, Borut, T Beale | Decisions needed: - need to fund dedicated openEHR.org server, allowing multiple sub-domain websites, Jira, etc
- need to agree on sysadmin responsibility
| Decisions: - move to new Linux server at Hetzner
- sysadmin human resource from Ocean, Marand, DIPS, Code24
- requires initial funds to be available
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11:30 | Web / e-presence - solicit requirements
- web site ideas
- educational materials
- entry points
| fac: TB Heather Adriana Danilakova all | | Details on this page. |
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13:00 | FHIR + SMART, IHE - technical, EN ISO 13606 - DIPS & FHIR 10 mins
- Marand update 10 mins
- IHE - Marand
- T Beale - archetype-based approach 10 mins
| T Beale Borut Fabjan DIPS | Decisions needed: - openEHR approach to FHIR
- openEHR and IHE
- openEHR and EN ISO 13606
| Borut Fabjan openEHR / IHE / FHIR presentation. Room agreed that - we need to create an openEHR technical position on IHE and FHIR
- model-based approach to FHIR makes more sense than manually built resources
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14:00 | Localisation | fac: Ian M Shinji | (deferred to webinar next week) | Notes from Shinji: - Endorsement - There are some local activities on openEHR all over the world, but no endorsement. We need to decide if openEHR endorse such local activity or not.
- Autonomy - It is easier for locals to have f2f meeting and seminar than globals. Gathering membership and money would be easier, too. Then, does such locals have oblige to share money to the openEHR.org? If locals published a book on the openEHR with regards to the official documents of the openEHR specs, can they use money only for their funds for the local activities?
- Privileges on the openEHR organisation - After I launched openEHR.jp, I and other persons have pointed out these problems time to time, but no progress and no answers are available, indeed. I would like to request to make a localisation director who has privileges on this matter. I think Koray would deserve it.
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14:30 | ADL & tooling discussion continued | fac: TB | | Agreed on call among key implementers to build a description of a tool, and rough project definition: - Ocean - TB, Seref Arikan, Sebastian
- Marand - Bostjan, Borut, Marko
- Code24 - Sebastian Iancu
- DIPS - TBD (contact Bjorn Naess)
- RaySearch - TBD
- Erik Sundvall (openEHR software program coordinator)
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15:00 | Wrap up - road ahead, agreements | Ian McNicoll, Tomaz Gornik | | |
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