Re: Medinfo 2010.. Re: clinically useful set of archetypes for a connect
Hi Tony, I have added two potential use cases http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/resources/Connect-a-thon+Details now I need clinicians to tell the rest of us is this a doable situation. Can we do these two with the 15-20 archetypes that were discussed below? If not, what needs to change? I also need feedback on the other items on that page. Also, please start making commitments to participate. http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/resources/Connect-a-thon +Participants If we do not have systems signed up and committed to participate then we are wasting our time in planning the event. Cheers, Tim On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 10:22 +0100, Tony Shannon wrote: > Thanks Tim, > > In reply.. > I am a believer in keeping things simple where possible. > My sense is that we can demostrate an impressive solution if we offer > support around a single/few patient journey(s) and a limited set of > archetypes. > > Let me play devils advocate and suggest all we need to address for the > majority of this is just 2 overlapping groups of archetypes. > 1) The Emergency Summary set (Top10) that Heather has been polling for > 2) The SOAP note set > Note that these have significant overlap. > > That journey could begin in any/many ways.. > eg > 1) > Newborn .. with a SOAP note > > http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:YO6tdfa2xXgJ:faculty.washington.edu/alexbert/MEDEX/Spring/MCHNewBornsoapnote.doc+soap+note+newborns&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk > Home with a Summary note > 2) > To the Primary Care doc.. with a new SOAP note > At end of visit.. an updated Summary > 3) > To the ED/other Unit.. where we access the Summary > Then we add a new SOAP note > Then we update the Summary > 4)..into old age.. > When a Long Term condition requires more SOAP notes > and updates to the Summary > and so on and so on.. > OK a very simplistic example, but I hope it illustrates a point. > If some think that its too broad then we could use a subset of that > journey..again only needing with SOAP and Summary. > > > The top 10 Summary drive has already begin the process of now starting > to explore 15/20 key archetypes, all of which selected can and will > provide the basis for the SOAP note too. > > One point your question does raise is whether we are aiming for > archetypes that have more breadth or depth, or a mix in between. > I would be looking for the Medinfo demo set to provide *just enough* > (and no more than that) detail to get the demo across. > > I would not expect us to have finalised the definitive archetypes for > Summary/SOAP by then. There will be never be "final" versions of any > of > these anwway..always works in progress. > > Hope these ideas help.. > > Tony > > Tim Cook wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 17:46 +0100, Tony Shannon wrote: > >> Thanks Tim & co for moving on this. > >> > >> Tim > >> You kindly offered to help organise this, please let me know if I > >> can > >> help in any way. > > > > Tony, > > > > I think that you will be key in leading the charge to be sure that > > we > > have the correct archetypes in place. Maybe even if they haven't > > all > > passed review by then???? > > > > We at least need to have a MedInfo2010 Set defined. Probably no > > later > > than 1 December. So we have the list prior to everyone going on the > > holiday break. This will provide time for the various application > > developers to do template building and testing. Maybe enough time > > for > > CKM/ARB certification as well? > > > > But of course this means that we also need to define the number of > > use > > cases and number of patients we will be demoing. > > > > Comments please........ > > > > --Tim > > > > > > > > > > -- > Dr. Tony Shannon > Consultant in Emergency Medicine, Leeds Teaching Hospitals > Clinical Lead, Clinical Content Service, NHS Connecting for Health > Chair, Clinical Review Board, openEHR Foundation > +44.789.988 5068 tony.shannon@nhs.net > > ******************************************************************************************************************** > > This message may contain confidential information. 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