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Re: Medinfo 2010.. Re: clinically useful set of archetypes for a connect


Thanks Tim,

In reply..
I am a believer in keeping things simple where possible.
My sense is that we can demostrate an impressive solution if we offer
support around a single/few patient journey(s) and a limited set of
archetypes.

Let me play devils advocate and suggest all we need to address for the
majority of this is just 2 overlapping groups of archetypes.
1) The Emergency Summary set (Top10) that Heather has been polling for
2) The SOAP note set
Note that these have significant overlap.

That journey could begin in any/many ways..
eg
1)
Newborn .. with a SOAP note
http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:YO6tdfa2xXgJ:faculty.washington.edu/alexbert/MEDEX/Spring/MCHNewBornsoapnote.doc+soap+note+newborns&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
Home with a Summary note
2)
To the Primary Care doc.. with a new SOAP note
At end of visit.. an updated Summary
3)
To the ED/other Unit.. where we access the Summary
Then we add a new SOAP note
Then we update the Summary
4)..into old age..
When a Long Term condition requires more SOAP notes
and updates to the Summary
and so on and so on..
OK a very simplistic example, but I hope it illustrates a point.
If some think that its too broad then we could use a subset of that
journey..again only needing with SOAP and Summary.


The top 10 Summary drive has already begin the process of now starting
to explore  15/20 key archetypes, all of which selected can and will
provide the basis for the SOAP note too.

One point your question does raise is whether we are aiming for
archetypes that have more breadth or depth, or a mix in between.
I would be looking for the Medinfo demo set to provide *just enough*
(and no more than that) detail to get the demo across.

I would not expect us to have finalised the definitive archetypes for
Summary/SOAP by then. There will be never be "final" versions of any of
these anwway..always works in progress.

Hope these ideas help..

Tony

Tim Cook wrote:
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 17:46 +0100, Tony Shannon wrote:
Thanks Tim & co for moving on this.

Tim
You kindly offered to help organise this, please let me know if I can
help in any way.

Tony,

I think that you will be key in leading the charge to be sure that we
have the correct archetypes in place.  Maybe even if they haven't all
passed review by then????

We at least need to have a MedInfo2010 Set defined. Probably no later
than 1 December. So we have the list prior to everyone going on the
holiday break.  This will provide time for the various application
developers to do template building and testing.  Maybe enough time for
CKM/ARB certification as well?

But of course this means that we also need to define the number of use
cases and number of patients we will be demoing.

Comments please........

--Tim





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Dr. Tony Shannon
Consultant in Emergency Medicine, Leeds Teaching Hospitals
Clinical Lead, Clinical Content Service, NHS Connecting for Health
Chair, Clinical Review Board, openEHR Foundation
+44.789.988 5068            tony.shannon@nhs.net

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