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RE: Decision Support Providers



Hi Everyone,

My apologies if you receive this message twice -- I got a "message too large" error from the list-serv, so I am re-posting without attachments.

I'm new to the OpenEHR list, but thought I'd comment on this discussion with hopefully some relevant insights.

I am a co-chair of the HL7 Clinical Decision Support (CDS) Work Group, and we have been working on several relevant standards around CDS services.  Of note, these standards are based on our operational use of this approach, including for a point-of-care chronic disease management system used by approximately 500 clinicians at Duke University Health System; a population health management system that supports care managers, clinicians, and patients within North Carolina Medicaid; and systems that remotely access our CDS service from Argentina and from Massachusetts.

Below are several standards and resources that may be relevant to this discussion thread:

> The HL7 Decision Support Service draft standard, which provides a common functional specification for how CDS services should work:http://www.hl7.org/v3ballot2009jan/html/infrastructure/dss/dss.htm

> The OMG Decision Support Service draft standard (soon to be a full normative standard), which was adopted in December 2009 and provides an implementable Web service specification based on the HL7 standard:
http://hssp-dss.wikispaces.com/omg_specification

Of note, both the HL7 and OMG Decision Support Service standards support the use of semantic payloads defined outside of HL7, such as OpenEHR Archetypes.

> As the above standards specify interaction models but not the semantic payloads, we are also working on a specification for service input and output data known as the HL7 virtual medical record (vMR) standard.  This standard will be compatible with using HL7 v3 information models as the input, but we also intend to allow the use of other sources of data (e.g., CCR, HL7 V2 messages, and hopefully OpenEHR Archetypes).  This work is based on an an analysis of CDS data needs across 20 institutions from 4 countries, and it underwent initial balloting last month.  More information on this work can be found at the following wiki: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Virtual_Medical_Record_(vMR).  Of note, myself and other members of this project team have been following some of the comments regarding this project posted on the OpenEHR lists, and have found them to be quite helpful and aligned with some of the issues we are grappling with.  We are trying to learn more about OpenEHR to see how we can leverage it for this emerging HL7 standard, and we hope to learn more from the expertise available in the OpenEHR community.

> A presentation I recently gave that provides an overview of these standards and describes a recently initiatied effort to develop an open-source, IP-free reference implementation compliant with the HL7/OMG Decision Support Service standard.  This system will be an evolution from the currently operational CDS service I developed known as SEBASTIAN, with the key differentiators being: (1) full standards compliance, (2) use of an open-source rules authoring, management, and execution environment (Drools), and (3) adoption of an open-source, IP-free model to facilitate collaboration and adoption.  I am spear-heading this multi-institutional effort.
http://community.jboss.org/servlet/JiveServlet/download/14964-115-12135/Kawamoto%20K%20--%20CDS%20with%20HL7%20and%20Drools,%20v03.ppt

> A recent JAMIA article describing the broader HL7-OMG effort to develop standard service interface specifications for healthcare:
http://jamia.bmj.com/content/16/6/874.abstract

> A paper on how this kind of a standards-based, service-oriented approach to CDS could be leveraged to enable personalized medicine in a highly scalable manner.  I have a strong interest in this area and am currently supported by the National Human Genome Research Institute to explore how to enable scalable CDS for genomic and personalized medicine.
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6947/9/17

> We also have two potentially relevant papers pending e-publication, one analyzing the landscape of standards related to CDS (including for CDS services) and another providing an experience-based analysis of the pros and cons of using a services-based approach to CDS.  Once these manuscripts are publicly available, I will plan to post them to the list for reference.

Thanks!
Ken Kawamoto

HL7 CDS Work Group Co-Chair
Project Lead, HL7/OMG Decision Support Services project and HL7 Virtual Medical Record project

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Kensaku Kawamoto, M.D., Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Division of Clinical Informatics
Department of Community and Family Medicine
Member, Institute for Genome Sciences & Policy

Member, Center for Health Informatics
Duke University
Tel: (919)684-2340
Fax: (919)684-8675



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RE: Decision Support Providers





Thanks Tim

Sounds like that work was ahead of its time. I hadn't come across it before.
Any key conclusions you drew from that work?

Regards,

Tony

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Subject: Re: Decision Support Providers

On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 13:57 +0100, Tony Shannon wrote:
> Many thanks Rong,
>
> The approach you outline which reuses archetypes and templates from EHR
> models resonates as a logical way to tackle this.

Though it was redesigned to use CDA in order to hopefully gain
acceptance with vendors EGADSS was originally designed (by me) for use
with archetypes and templates.  The implemented concepts and possibly
the source code could be reused.

http://egadss.sourceforge.net/

HTH,
Tim


>
> John Halamka mentions in his blog...
> "Thus, Anvita has defined clinical decision support (CDS) standards to
> transmit decision support recommendations from the service provider back
> to the EHR. I am unaware any widely implemented standards that do this
> today. "
>
> Can you comment on his quote/article?
>
> Also can you say some more about the rules element of your work..
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Tony
>
> Dr. Tony Shannon
> Consultant in Emergency Medicine, Leeds Teaching Hospitals
> Clinical Lead for Informatics,    Leeds Teaching Hospitals
> Chair, Clinical Review Board, openEHR Foundation
> +44.789.988 5068            tony.shannon@nhs.net
>
>
> Rong Chen wrote:
> > Hi Tony,
> >
> > I take the challenge to comment ;-)
> >
> > We start to see this kind of CDS services emerging now in Sweden.
> > Web-services based drug interaction check is a good example of this.
> > The difference is that the content (drug database) is available to the
> > users. So it's not really a black-box. I doubt that a black-box CDS
> > implementation will be very popular among the clinicians.
> >
> > I also think remote-service based CDS for raising single
> > alerts/reminders can be useful in some limited scope but  will not
> > scale up to provide more comprehensive CDS functions. I am more in
> > favour of developing CDS content based on standardised EHR models so
> > CDS applications can be implemented directly within EHRs.
> >
> > We start to exploring representing clinical guidelines using openEHR
> > archetypes/templates and rules. Using EHR models to represent
> > guidelines could give several potential benefits: 1) reuse of existing
> > EHR content models as building blocks of guidelines; 2) increase
> > interoperability between CDS applications and EHRs; 3) facilitate
> > guideline compliance checking.
> >
> > More details can be found in our MIE2009 paper:
> >
http://www.imt.liu.se/~ronch/MIE2009_Representing_Lymphoma_Guideline_5page_v3.pdf
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rong
> >
> > On 25 June 2010 17:24, Shannon Tony (Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS
> > Trust) <tony.shannon@nhs.net> wrote:
> >> FYI..
> >>
> >> A thought provoking post from John Halamka on decision support providers as service.
> >>
http://geekdoctor.blogspot.com/2010/06/decision-support-service-providers.html
> >> Some of you might have complementary/alternative views as to how this might work within an openEHR enabled landscape...
> >>
> >> Rong
> >> Would you like to comment?
> >> Your recent work covered some of this key territory..
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Tony
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